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		<title>By: Kenneth T. Tellis</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-16524</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth T. Tellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beautifully written piece, but it avoids the reality of Ceylon, where this problem began.

As an outsider, but having been in the area of the 1958 Colombo riots in which the Sinhala majority took advantage and massaced Tamil minority, I think otherwise.  A cargo ship owned by the Hain-Nourse shipping line of London, England actually saved a lost of the Tamils in Colombo, by allowinf Tamils to come aboard and carry them as far as Trincomalee. So, this is the part of the story that was left out. Whether that was done deliberately or not, does not hade certain facts of the problems noe facing the island nation of Sri Lanka.  Personally, I feel the partition is the only solution to the issue of Sri Lanka, because it will save a lot of lives.

Former British Merchant Navy Officer, who spent a lot of time in Ceylon and later Sri Lanka.

As long as someone is tied to either community, the truth will become a victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A beautifully written piece, but it avoids the reality of Ceylon, where this problem began.</p>
<p>As an outsider, but having been in the area of the 1958 Colombo riots in which the Sinhala majority took advantage and massaced Tamil minority, I think otherwise.  A cargo ship owned by the Hain-Nourse shipping line of London, England actually saved a lost of the Tamils in Colombo, by allowinf Tamils to come aboard and carry them as far as Trincomalee. So, this is the part of the story that was left out. Whether that was done deliberately or not, does not hade certain facts of the problems noe facing the island nation of Sri Lanka.  Personally, I feel the partition is the only solution to the issue of Sri Lanka, because it will save a lot of lives.</p>
<p>Former British Merchant Navy Officer, who spent a lot of time in Ceylon and later Sri Lanka.</p>
<p>As long as someone is tied to either community, the truth will become a victim.</p>
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		<title>By: somay</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1918</link>
		<dc:creator>somay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to think that what is missing in this comparision is the following crucial facts.

1.When compared with the French/English conflict Sri Lanka has a long histry of conflict between the two group Sinhalese and tamils in the form of conflict between Sri lanka and South Indian kingdoms.

2. Conflict between Tamils and Sinhalese has always been influence by the political ambitions of UK as a ruler (who used devide and rule  tactice for over hundred years) in the past and currently by India as a regional super power cum bully  (as evident by training and arming of LTTE by Indira Ghandi&#039;s time to destablize the &quot;west leaning government of J.R. Jayawardhane&quot;.

3. Any conflict has to be analysysed in the context of its historical background. Even though the author tries to give an analysis and a comparision of the two we can&#039;t isolate it just for the sake of analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to think that what is missing in this comparision is the following crucial facts.</p>
<p>1.When compared with the French/English conflict Sri Lanka has a long histry of conflict between the two group Sinhalese and tamils in the form of conflict between Sri lanka and South Indian kingdoms.</p>
<p>2. Conflict between Tamils and Sinhalese has always been influence by the political ambitions of UK as a ruler (who used devide and rule  tactice for over hundred years) in the past and currently by India as a regional super power cum bully  (as evident by training and arming of LTTE by Indira Ghandi&#8217;s time to destablize the &#8220;west leaning government of J.R. Jayawardhane&#8221;.</p>
<p>3. Any conflict has to be analysysed in the context of its historical background. Even though the author tries to give an analysis and a comparision of the two we can&#8217;t isolate it just for the sake of analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Thillai.T.Thillaiambalam</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>Thillai.T.Thillaiambalam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DBS article makes interesting reading. I would like to read more articles of this type comparing how Canada and Sri Lanka treated  separatist violence. 

The insight written by Kail. T. Rajah was also very informative. I wish more readers in Canada will respond by describing their experiences and opinions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DBS article makes interesting reading. I would like to read more articles of this type comparing how Canada and Sri Lanka treated  separatist violence. </p>
<p>The insight written by Kail. T. Rajah was also very informative. I wish more readers in Canada will respond by describing their experiences and opinions</p>
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		<title>By: c.b.</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1824</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  read the interesting article comparing Canada and Srilanka. It raises a number of points which may indeed contribute to a better undestanding of the Srilankan conflict. I thought however that one important difference between the two situations was overlooked,i.e. the ethno-religious mythology one finds among certain Sinhalese linking Buddhism - Srilanka and Sinhala. I think this mythology is the main reason for the paranoia in some Sinhala circles, which makes it impossible for them to look at the problem of the minorities and especially the Tamils  in a rational and open manner as is done in Canada.For them the only place for minorities is that of guests in a SinhalaBuddhist island or even worse that of creepers on the Sinhala tree.
Another factor is of course the LTTE, which apart from its other serious defects, also by its actions simply confirms and aggravates the Sinhalese paranoia.Think of the killings at the Mahabodhi in Anaradhapura in 1985, the killings of innocent Sinhalese villagers in the border-villages and the bomb -attack on the Dalada Maligawa in Kandy in 1998. 
Quebec never had anything like the Tigers. Neither was there ever in Canadian English speaking majority circles some opinion with the deep emotional force  of  Srilankan Buddhist Sinhala nationalism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  read the interesting article comparing Canada and Srilanka. It raises a number of points which may indeed contribute to a better undestanding of the Srilankan conflict. I thought however that one important difference between the two situations was overlooked,i.e. the ethno-religious mythology one finds among certain Sinhalese linking Buddhism &#8211; Srilanka and Sinhala. I think this mythology is the main reason for the paranoia in some Sinhala circles, which makes it impossible for them to look at the problem of the minorities and especially the Tamils  in a rational and open manner as is done in Canada.For them the only place for minorities is that of guests in a SinhalaBuddhist island or even worse that of creepers on the Sinhala tree.<br />
Another factor is of course the LTTE, which apart from its other serious defects, also by its actions simply confirms and aggravates the Sinhalese paranoia.Think of the killings at the Mahabodhi in Anaradhapura in 1985, the killings of innocent Sinhalese villagers in the border-villages and the bomb -attack on the Dalada Maligawa in Kandy in 1998.<br />
Quebec never had anything like the Tigers. Neither was there ever in Canadian English speaking majority circles some opinion with the deep emotional force  of  Srilankan Buddhist Sinhala nationalism</p>
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		<title>By: KK Nathan</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>KK Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political violence in Canada in Quebec stopped because Trudeau Government  practised hard policies for short time only. Afterwards they made many political concessions to French Canadians. Tried hard to include them in mainstream life.

But in Sri Lanka violence was practised on Tamils for decades. No political concessions were made. Only hardline policies were used against Tamils for decades. Canada airforce did not bomb Quebec cities; Canada navy did not destroy Quebec fishing boats. Canada army did not declare 25% of Quebec as high security zone and drive people away.

Comparing both countrys like comparing palmyrah and maple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political violence in Canada in Quebec stopped because Trudeau Government  practised hard policies for short time only. Afterwards they made many political concessions to French Canadians. Tried hard to include them in mainstream life.</p>
<p>But in Sri Lanka violence was practised on Tamils for decades. No political concessions were made. Only hardline policies were used against Tamils for decades. Canada airforce did not bomb Quebec cities; Canada navy did not destroy Quebec fishing boats. Canada army did not declare 25% of Quebec as high security zone and drive people away.</p>
<p>Comparing both countrys like comparing palmyrah and maple</p>
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		<title>By: Anpu</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1815</link>
		<dc:creator>Anpu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 03:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well researched article. Though the author does not condone the violence, this article reflects the reality that the all uncivilized Sri Lankan governments failed to understand non-violent democratic protests of real grievances and thus are the cause oft the current state of violence. 

It is true that the Tamil leaders believed Sinhala leadership foolishly as others commented here. Unfortunately the Sinhala majority community and its leadership nowadays are more racist than that of independence day era.  Does it mean that there is no viable negotiated political settlement in sight?  

I would like read the accounts from other participants as well, especially the ones by the respected journalist Victor Ivan. could anyone of you post the URLs of publications if you come across. Though they may fail to educate the incorrigibles, still there are rational people in all sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well researched article. Though the author does not condone the violence, this article reflects the reality that the all uncivilized Sri Lankan governments failed to understand non-violent democratic protests of real grievances and thus are the cause oft the current state of violence. </p>
<p>It is true that the Tamil leaders believed Sinhala leadership foolishly as others commented here. Unfortunately the Sinhala majority community and its leadership nowadays are more racist than that of independence day era.  Does it mean that there is no viable negotiated political settlement in sight?  </p>
<p>I would like read the accounts from other participants as well, especially the ones by the respected journalist Victor Ivan. could anyone of you post the URLs of publications if you come across. Though they may fail to educate the incorrigibles, still there are rational people in all sides.</p>
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		<title>By: S.Senthi</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>S.Senthi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second article of this writer.He has given a very
good explanation and the Srlankan Candian Tamils and the Srilankan citizen of Srilanka especially the Sinhalese should read and should be able to follow the writers views.
But I think the majority Tamils in Canada should read and change their attitude.
I think he is the only journalist  who is well aware of the situation.In Toronto there are numerous Tamil News papers published weekly.What do we find nothing but 
advertisement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second article of this writer.He has given a very<br />
good explanation and the Srlankan Candian Tamils and the Srilankan citizen of Srilanka especially the Sinhalese should read and should be able to follow the writers views.<br />
But I think the majority Tamils in Canada should read and change their attitude.<br />
I think he is the only journalist  who is well aware of the situation.In Toronto there are numerous Tamil News papers published weekly.What do we find nothing but<br />
advertisement.</p>
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		<title>By: Kail. T. Rajah</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1808</link>
		<dc:creator>Kail. T. Rajah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good analysis and comparrison of civilised Canada with that of Sri Lanka.
I was living in Canada during the FLQ crisis. I cannot write as well as DBSJ but will present my observation and belief as best as I could.

The soverignist movement headed by the FLQ was because the French speaking Canadians were being percieved as the  &#039;Under-Class &#039; of the Canadian Society.

Most unilingual French speakers, upto about 1971 were either Priests, Teachers or factory workers and labourers. Very few if any ,  were in Management,  either in industry or government. Where as most Bi-Lingual French held top posts in Commerce and Government. All Prime Ministers and the OppositionLeaders had to be fluently bi-lingual, irrespective of whether they  hail from the English or French  stream.

Lester Pearson, John Turner, Joe Clark  Brian Mulrooney, Kim Campbel, Paul Martin and Stephen Harper from the English stream and Piere Elliot Trudeau  and Jean Cretian from the French side were well supported by both the French and English electrate. 

Where as most unilingual English speaking population held top positions in both Industry and government. The bottom rung were mostly determined by their level of education. This appeared patently unfair, hense the French frustration.

The FLQ tapped this  frustration of the  &#039; Unilingual &#039; French speaking population  -  just as SWRD tapped the  &#039; Unilingual &#039;  Singhalese mass in 1956,  to come to power.
 
The FLQ kinapped the British Trade Commissioner, Mr. Cross, I believe and murdered the Quebec Labour Minister triggering Trudeau to invoke the War Measures Act to supress the uprising. To win the release of Mr. Cross,  Trudeau had to let a few FLQ members leave for Cuba on excile.

A few years later Official Bilingual was given Actual Teeth, largly satisfying the hunger of the Unilingual French,  pulling the carpet as it were from under the Soverignist movement.
Many of the present generation, including DBSJ who might not have been born then,  Mr. Bandaranaike, the Leader of the Opposition, did originally propose Singhalese and Tamil as Official Languages in Ceylon.  The ruling UNP government also proposed to make both Singhalese and Tamil language official. To this SWRD countered with Singhalese Only which the UNP also followed. Cornered, the demogogue SWRD promised Singhalese Language within 24 hrs of forming the government and was swept into power with a huge majority.

In Canada, the language laws were given teeth, unilingual government workers were given incentives to study the other language and most schools started the other language classes from a very early age.

Civilised behaviour.

Ofcourse there were pockets of unrest in Quebec with French Only marches taking place during weekends.

My family with two very small children and an Ontario licence plate got stuck in front of a Soverignist procession. One person kicked in my front lights and when the crowd saw my brown face - I was not obviously English - they profusely apologised.

So DBSJ and readers,  had Ceylon/Sri Lanka not discriminated,  played fair to all the communities, the Tamils would never have resorted to violence.

The Tamil community, atleast up to my generation were very docile and if truth may be said, we were cowards. The 1956 riots were an eye opener, the 1958 confirmed our unstable position and made my father to seriously uproot and invest in a safety nest in Jaffna.

SJV did not realize till 1977 that Gandhian Tactics worked only  with civilised people. India succeeded only because Britain was a civilised country.

As one of the above commentators observed, our leaders at independance trusted the Singhalese leadership foolishly, quite unlike Jinnah of Pakistan.

Finally as Arend Liphart argued -  The best way to avoid partition is not to resist it.  
Civilised Canada succeeded, Sri Lanka Failed and will continue to fail until  the Majority realises to have peace one has to be fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good analysis and comparrison of civilised Canada with that of Sri Lanka.<br />
I was living in Canada during the FLQ crisis. I cannot write as well as DBSJ but will present my observation and belief as best as I could.</p>
<p>The soverignist movement headed by the FLQ was because the French speaking Canadians were being percieved as the  &#8216;Under-Class &#8216; of the Canadian Society.</p>
<p>Most unilingual French speakers, upto about 1971 were either Priests, Teachers or factory workers and labourers. Very few if any ,  were in Management,  either in industry or government. Where as most Bi-Lingual French held top posts in Commerce and Government. All Prime Ministers and the OppositionLeaders had to be fluently bi-lingual, irrespective of whether they  hail from the English or French  stream.</p>
<p>Lester Pearson, John Turner, Joe Clark  Brian Mulrooney, Kim Campbel, Paul Martin and Stephen Harper from the English stream and Piere Elliot Trudeau  and Jean Cretian from the French side were well supported by both the French and English electrate. </p>
<p>Where as most unilingual English speaking population held top positions in both Industry and government. The bottom rung were mostly determined by their level of education. This appeared patently unfair, hense the French frustration.</p>
<p>The FLQ tapped this  frustration of the  &#8216; Unilingual &#8216; French speaking population  &#8211;  just as SWRD tapped the  &#8216; Unilingual &#8216;  Singhalese mass in 1956,  to come to power.</p>
<p>The FLQ kinapped the British Trade Commissioner, Mr. Cross, I believe and murdered the Quebec Labour Minister triggering Trudeau to invoke the War Measures Act to supress the uprising. To win the release of Mr. Cross,  Trudeau had to let a few FLQ members leave for Cuba on excile.</p>
<p>A few years later Official Bilingual was given Actual Teeth, largly satisfying the hunger of the Unilingual French,  pulling the carpet as it were from under the Soverignist movement.<br />
Many of the present generation, including DBSJ who might not have been born then,  Mr. Bandaranaike, the Leader of the Opposition, did originally propose Singhalese and Tamil as Official Languages in Ceylon.  The ruling UNP government also proposed to make both Singhalese and Tamil language official. To this SWRD countered with Singhalese Only which the UNP also followed. Cornered, the demogogue SWRD promised Singhalese Language within 24 hrs of forming the government and was swept into power with a huge majority.</p>
<p>In Canada, the language laws were given teeth, unilingual government workers were given incentives to study the other language and most schools started the other language classes from a very early age.</p>
<p>Civilised behaviour.</p>
<p>Ofcourse there were pockets of unrest in Quebec with French Only marches taking place during weekends.</p>
<p>My family with two very small children and an Ontario licence plate got stuck in front of a Soverignist procession. One person kicked in my front lights and when the crowd saw my brown face &#8211; I was not obviously English &#8211; they profusely apologised.</p>
<p>So DBSJ and readers,  had Ceylon/Sri Lanka not discriminated,  played fair to all the communities, the Tamils would never have resorted to violence.</p>
<p>The Tamil community, atleast up to my generation were very docile and if truth may be said, we were cowards. The 1956 riots were an eye opener, the 1958 confirmed our unstable position and made my father to seriously uproot and invest in a safety nest in Jaffna.</p>
<p>SJV did not realize till 1977 that Gandhian Tactics worked only  with civilised people. India succeeded only because Britain was a civilised country.</p>
<p>As one of the above commentators observed, our leaders at independance trusted the Singhalese leadership foolishly, quite unlike Jinnah of Pakistan.</p>
<p>Finally as Arend Liphart argued &#8211;  The best way to avoid partition is not to resist it.<br />
Civilised Canada succeeded, Sri Lanka Failed and will continue to fail until  the Majority realises to have peace one has to be fair.</p>
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		<title>By: S.THAMBY</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.THAMBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada belonged to the abroigianl people. Was stolen from them by French and English people.Then they created Canda -federalism which gives enough autonomy to prosper for individual provinces. But the aboriginals are still being denied their rights and freedom. FLQ violence was between the two thieves and it is not a political violence based on their &#039;ownership&#039; of the land but it was pure terrorism. Canada is an officially bi-lingual country from its conception.
I am not sure how we can compare this situation with what happening in Sri lanka. This comparison will mislead the  people who do not know the history of SriLanka to misunderstand the cause of the liberation struggle in Sri Lanka.
This is like tying the &#039;Moddaithalai&#039; with &#039;Mulankaal&#039;!
First of all, Sri lanka should come in par with Canadian political set-up. Then the &#039;political&#039; violence will automatically fade away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canada belonged to the abroigianl people. Was stolen from them by French and English people.Then they created Canda -federalism which gives enough autonomy to prosper for individual provinces. But the aboriginals are still being denied their rights and freedom. FLQ violence was between the two thieves and it is not a political violence based on their &#8216;ownership&#8217; of the land but it was pure terrorism. Canada is an officially bi-lingual country from its conception.<br />
I am not sure how we can compare this situation with what happening in Sri lanka. This comparison will mislead the  people who do not know the history of SriLanka to misunderstand the cause of the liberation struggle in Sri Lanka.<br />
This is like tying the &#8216;Moddaithalai&#8217; with &#8216;Mulankaal&#8217;!<br />
First of all, Sri lanka should come in par with Canadian political set-up. Then the &#8216;political&#8217; violence will automatically fade away.</p>
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		<title>By: Arul S. Aruliah</title>
		<link>http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/303/comment-page-1#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>Arul S. Aruliah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article is a well thought-out compare and contrast. Notwithstanding, the differences between two countries in so many ways are just too big even to commence any comparison only if one could comprehend looking down on a deep valley from the top of Everest; the gulf is just to large. 

Consciousness of one is an incorrigibly self mutilating and the governance without a firm rule of law or independent judiciary, commencing with abrogation of minority rights that was incorporated in the constitution of the newly independent nation, 

The other is an unabashedly an open minded nation with determination to enshrine and strengthen rule of law.

One is coiled in the mythical stories and other is a forward looking liberal-minded nation harnessing the strength of all the people.

Canada is structurally a confederal (not a federal) nation, highly devolved with her blessed leaders shaping the future of the country to the betterment of every citizen. It could hardly be said of same of Sri Lanka. 

But one beautiful aspect however is that PEOPLE in both lands are fundamentally good people. Solution will be found therein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article is a well thought-out compare and contrast. Notwithstanding, the differences between two countries in so many ways are just too big even to commence any comparison only if one could comprehend looking down on a deep valley from the top of Everest; the gulf is just to large. </p>
<p>Consciousness of one is an incorrigibly self mutilating and the governance without a firm rule of law or independent judiciary, commencing with abrogation of minority rights that was incorporated in the constitution of the newly independent nation, </p>
<p>The other is an unabashedly an open minded nation with determination to enshrine and strengthen rule of law.</p>
<p>One is coiled in the mythical stories and other is a forward looking liberal-minded nation harnessing the strength of all the people.</p>
<p>Canada is structurally a confederal (not a federal) nation, highly devolved with her blessed leaders shaping the future of the country to the betterment of every citizen. It could hardly be said of same of Sri Lanka. </p>
<p>But one beautiful aspect however is that PEOPLE in both lands are fundamentally good people. Solution will be found therein.</p>
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